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<br />Audit Committee Minutes -October 8, 2002 -Page 7 <br />Mr. Joerns commented on the purchasing procedures, where the departments purchase items and <br />submit the appropriate paper work to Purchasing, these are all documented. From the Finance <br />perspective, Mrs. Alexander feels there needs to be a Program Administrator, being the Director <br />of Finance. This person would be ultimately accountable, for the program. We would get the <br />cards through the depository and Finance would negotiate the depository, and work with the <br />people on a daily basis. She feels this will not work as well if we use this as a <br />purchase/procurement card; it will work very well as a travel and entertainment card. Finance <br />writes the Travel Policy, checks those policies, reviews travel reports and maintains them. <br />The way our City is set up, Purchasing is not under Finance, making it more difficult to be <br />responsible for that area, when Finance does not have authority in that area. Chairperson Chuck <br />Engelken questioned why the Purchasing Department is not under the Finance Department's <br />umbrella. Most entities have the Purchasing Department under Finance. Mr. Joerns commented <br />that some of it is organizational history. The prior Director of Administrative Services came <br />through Purchasing, as faz as cazeer advancement. <br />Mr. Engelken commented that from a fmancial accountability standpoint, it should fall under the <br />Chief Financial Officer (CFO) in most organizations, with the CFO falling under the Chief <br />Administrative Officer. Assistant Director of Finance Michael Dolby suggested putting it all in <br />one azena, with one person responsible, providing Finance with better internal control. If <br />Purchasing were a part of Finance, the Program Administrator could very easily be the <br />Purchasing Manager. It is very hard to make it that person when they are not part of the <br />department. The procurement card would have to fall under Purchasing, they will check <br />purchasing items, not travel and entertainment. <br />Councilmember Bruce Meismer questioned if there will be an oversight group of some sort, an <br />administrative overseeing arm from Purchasing, as Mr. Warren suggested. <br />Mr. Warren questioned if the credit card is used for personal reasons, will the holder be <br />responsible for reimbursement to the City. He is concerned, if we allow this, we leave ourselves <br />open. <br />Mrs. Alexander explained it clearly states the cazd is not to be used for personal reasons, only for <br />business. If the cardholder is charged for something personal, e.g., an item bought at a hotel gift <br />shop, etc., the employee is responsible to reimburse the City for this item. Mr. Joerns commented <br />on the draft ordinance, they reviewed previously, with provisions for reimbursing personal items <br />which are included on a central bill. Mrs. Alexander reaffirmed the Credit Card Policy will be <br />very clear with the cardholders. If Finance feels they do not clearly understand the policy, a card <br />will not be issued to them. The policy clearly states that if the card is abused, it will be returned <br />to Finance. The policy covers everything, where there will not be any oversights. Mrs. <br />Alexander reviewed the strict procedures within the policy. She does not see how anybody would <br />misunderstand the explicit details of the policy. <br />The Audit Committee will receive a report of all credit card charges each quarter during the Audit <br />Committee meetings. Assistant Finance Director Michael Dolby will be the Finance <br />Department's approving official due to his CPA, his being an executive level employee and due <br />to his auditing experience. At the time he submits the report, he will share with you any <br />questionable items. The Committee will receive the report, along with a verbal report from Mr. <br />Dolby, and he will be able to answer questions. <br />