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Mr. Alexander wanted to clarify that based on the comments he heard, the consensus was not <br />that an assessment center was a "bad concept". Novosad indicated that the majority were <br />uneasy, but not opposed to some type of alternative testing, as it can be done under civil <br />service, and the concession tied to an increase in pay. <br />Mr. Alexander suggested implementing a one year contract and talking about other testing <br />means next year. However, he believes that it is important for this year's one year contract to <br />include language requiring at least a 70 on the civil service exam to pass (before promotional <br />points are added). <br />Chris Paige indicated he did not believe that the 70 point rule will pass the membership vote. <br />Matt Novosad said that the membership will see the 70 point rule as being tied to the <br />assessment center, since it was previously presented with that language regarding an <br />Assessment Center in the draft contract, and that the members had already voted on the <br />assessment center. He felt bringing it back to the membership could be a problem unless it was <br />tied to additional compensation. <br />The Chief discussed how the multi -year contract was tied to an alternative testing system, but <br />that if the idea of a multi -year contract was being taken off the table, it would allow the City <br />and the Association more time to discuss a mutually satisfactory alternative by the next <br />contract negotiation. Chief Adcox then reviewed the liability issues of promoting someone that <br />does not actually pass the promotional instrument that we have put in place to measure <br />whether or not they have the basic knowledge and abilities needed to do a particular job. He <br />would like for the requirement that someone actually pass the test be negotiated now if <br />possible. Chief Adcox advised that the two items he would hope to see in this year's contract, <br />besides appropriate officer pay adjustments, are a 70 percent passing rule for promotional <br />exams and an agreement by the Association to continue working in good faith with the City in <br />order to find a way to improve the police department's promotional system. He reminded the <br />group that these improvements do not have to be an assessment center. There just needs to <br />be something more comprehensive and reliable than a simple multiple choice test. Chief Adcox <br />advised that he wants the officers to be comfortable with whatever changes are ultimately <br />made and, in order to do this, he would like the Association to take the lead in researching and <br />recommending available options over the next year. <br />LPPOA called a caucus at 3:28 p.m. <br />The meeting reconvened at 3:50 p.m. <br />Matt Novosad talked about taking •back the 70% passing rule to the membership, as the <br />membership will feel it is tied to the Assessment Center. He advised that we are at a 3% <br />maximum increase and based on the ten (10) cities we currently use in the market survey our <br />statistics show we are doing a great job in regard to our crime statistics. He inquired that if we <br />are negotiating on a median market, then why are we not striving for more than 3% increase. <br />He feels the membership would have to have at least a 5% increase to even consider the 70% <br />passing; and that the 70% has to have something tied to it. <br />
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