1981-09-16 Joint Public Hearing and Regular Meeting

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• • • Minutes, Joint Public Hearing and Regular Meeting September 16, 1981, Page 8 Westergren: I thought you said Butchee would automatically go in as a sergeant. He doesn't get sergeants pay to begin with? Jacobs: On a temporary basis, as Mr. Hudgens has said. Until he passes his test. Hudgens: And he will not take a pay cut after that because what I would propose is that his salary stay the same until he is caught up in the pay scale if that was necessary without taking a pay cut of less. Faris: So that we are not talking about pay cuts for anyone, are we? Hudgens: No! Jacobs: We11, the way this was set up from, you'll, it shows there will be a pay cut. Faris: We will have to interpret it properly. • Hudgens: His salary will not be cut but will be frozen until the pay scale caught up with him. I don't believe in just arbitrarily cutting people's salary. Westergren: We didn't plan to cut anybody's salary. Jacobs: Maybe I'm wrong, but as I said. earlier, the Council has chosen to ignore us as a body that helped push Civil Service. We was on the other side of the fence. We pushed for Civil Service. Hudgens: It's not a matter of Council ignoring you. No other group of employees negotiates with Council for salary structure. Jacobs: We don't say negotiate, we are saying the foot work in helping to draw it up. We weren't saying negotiate, we are saying we ask to be a part of the transition and Council is saying no, they don't need us. Hudgens: No, that's not what was said at all. Jacobs: Well, it came from your office that you didn't need us. Hudgens: The things are talked about in the Ordinance are things that are not appropriate for you as an employee to ne- gotiate with me or the Council. Setting salaries is something done by the Council and not an employee or an employee's associa- tion. No other group of employees, Public Works, Parks & Recre- ation, Water and Sewer, come before the Council and ask to discuss their salary structure.